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Governor's Mansion Foundation:
Voices of the Mansion

Lois Murphy Spellman

Lois Murphy Spellman

First Lady, 1981-1985


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The following narration is by Lois Murphy Spellman, for the Governor's Mansion Foundation Voices of the Mansion oral history project as part of the Washington Women's History Consortium. The interview took place on July 15, 2008. The interviewer was Miriam Bausch. (Access a pdf copy of the transcript.)

As the First Lady of the State, I had the wonderful opportunity to serve, to make things happen, to give leadership to those projects I was passionate about, and which I felt would improve the quality of life for all of the citizens of the State of Washington. As wife of John Spellman, Governor of the State of Washington from 1981 to 1985, I became the First Lady and the official hostess of the mansion.

I wanted to make each visitor feel welcome. Of course, I might be guilty of forgetting a name now and then but I always remembered their face. The art of making space for another. I enjoy people. I always am learning. I want to be open to them, and for us, the Spellman family, the memories are all happy ones. I am thankful for the opportunity to reside in the mansion for those four wonderful years. And to Nancy Evans, I am appreciative of her leadership in establishing the rules of the mansion and creating such a beautiful residence, so appropriate for the style of the architecture.

When we moved in, we had three of our six children with us. Katherine, the youngest, was in the sixth grade, I believe. And Teresa was a junior in high school. Jeff wasn’t with us immediately, but he joined us later because he was transferring from W.S.U. [Washington State University] to be in the motion picture and entertainment department at Evergreen State College. Our challenge was to maintain the style of family life we had always practiced. John and I felt that our family was the most important part of our life, and we didn't want the children to think that living in the mansion would be such a special thing or that there was going to be live-in help. In fact, everyone had resigned before we entered the mansion. I guess that was the current practice. So it was rather easy to achieve what I wanted to do. But believe me, there was no way I could cook for all the receptions and dinners and all. I did the family cooking. The children were in charge of making their beds, picking up their gear, all of that. We weren’t changing any of our family rules.

I believe that there was one person who was on the janitorial staff of the State that was the greeter at the mansion door. And that was all he did. To me, that was not using the State money very well. I found out that we had a budget for the mansion, and it was approved yearly. And within that budget, I wanted to be able to have a full time chef for all the public events, not for family cooking, and also to have two assistant to do the cleaning and polishing and service and taking care of the official rooms of the mansion.

It was important that these employees be considered State employees and have all the rights, health-care insurance, and retirement funds. My major in college was labor relations and business administration. I really felt that I couldn’t tolerate having people work under me who were not treated fairly. So I lobbied John. I got all my facts together. Believe me, he really is hard on me when I’m trying to accomplish something he has to participate in. But anyway, he was convinced. We discussed it, and he got the authority ( it would have to be approved through the legislature) to put them on the public payroll.

Three months after we arrived, I received a call saying that I should come to the Governor's Office. There, I was told that the Mansion Foundation had filed a formal complaint against us, because I was introducing Northwest art into the mansion. John’s legal counsel, Marilyn Showalter, and Keith Angier, Director of the Department of General Administration, met with me. They examined the agreement the Mansion Foundation had, and it was determined that I could hang Northwest art in the galleries and in the family rooms. So, we went ahead and had Northwest art and artists come in. Grand receptions would be held for them. We had the first artist who contributed to the display and Tom Wellesley, Kenneth Callahan, and Fay Jones and, let me say, Jacob Lawrence, the outstanding black painter. They all came to the mansion for a reception. It was wonderful meeting such talented and marvelous people.

My husband certainly loves music and we had those grand pianos in the mansion. We had met a young man, Patrick McDonald, when my husband was campaigning for the governorship in his hometown in Southwestern Washington, who played piano very well and when he came to Olympia, I asked to speak with him. He worked somewhere in the web of the Governor's Office and came to the mansion where I asked him if he would play background music for us, and he agreed. I loved music when we having our luncheons or formal dinners.

We had the opera down. And they would sing a few arias. John loved having jazz players. Among the guests that he invited, was legislator Barney McClure who would come over. It was so much fun. It was just so much fun. And then John contacted Count Basie, because he was one of his favorites. And Count Basie promised to come to the mansion. And just before the date, Basie passed away.

John and I were in Seoul, Korea, where my husband was addressing the International Association of Travel Agents. He was there promoting trade and tourism at the time. I believe the acronym was ASTRA. John was in the holding pen, waiting to get on, to make his address. I was left out in the lobby and there was this nice gentleman I struck up a conversation with. My husband always tells me I could talk to a stump. But this was no stump. This was Clifton Daniels. And he said, “Wait a minute, I want you to meet my wife, Margaret Truman.” And she came, and it was just wonderful, because I had voted for her daddy. John was on the other side. We’ve had an interesting political life.

Margaret Truman Daniels told me she remembered visiting the mansion with her father when Mon Wallgren was Governor and he played the piano there. And I thanked her for sharing that. It was wonderful. We just chatted like we were old friends. My parents were born on the east coast, the east coast of Canada, New Brunswick. I used to spend my summers either in Boston or New York. So I was a sort of a semi east coast girl. We really had a delightful, charming conversation.

John mentioned, not too long ago, that he met a man whose father worked for Governor Hartley. The fellow remembers running around the office, and they even had Boy Scout meetings in the Governor's office. Isn't that delightful!

One thing you really should know is how marvelous it was to have the children with us in the mansion. Our youngest, Katherine, and her friends would come and go through the back fence and I never knew how they did it. They would just pop up when they would need some fruit juice, cookies or cookie jar things.

Kat was having a birthday party, and we always were very creative. Now I know these days children go to Chuckie Cheese’s or someplace. I thought we should have a party for ET. ET was very popular then. So Kat and I created an ET. We had a basketball and made a paper mache head. Then I called Keith Angier in the Governor’s Office to ask permission for a group of children to visit the dome. At that time, the dome was open to visitors.

We got over there and they gave us permission, and we hung ET from the top of the dome with nylon fishing nylon, from John’s fishing equipment or something. We had a clue party going all the way from the mansion over to the dome. We had clues for all the kids. It was so much fun to see these children excited and having such a good time.

If one of the children was having a party, we always insisted on having everyone in the class invited. If they were a little girl, they only had to invite all the girls. Or boys, they could have the boys. If they didn’t want to do that, no birthday party. I think even today the children are hurt if they're not invited to a party. That’s sadness in a child!

At Christmas time, we sang Christmas carols. With permission from the Foundation, we had a wonderful, wonderful Christmas tree erected in the mansion ballroom. I invited children from all over the State to send in handmade ornaments and we decorated the tree with them. It was sort of competitive for our children. They would look at all those ornaments, and they were so wonderful. In fact, I snuck a couple of them, and I still put them up on the tree here.

As a family, we would sing Christmas carols. And John would lead us in them. We would have the mansion open for people to come in for a couple of hours, visit, and sing carols. I still have the pamphlet, stapled together, of Christmas carols. I had a young man who was volunteering to help me and he got to choose all the carols that were in that songbook. I thought it was so precious. And it was wonderful trying to get more people involved in everything we did and sharing so many happy memories.

I also remember going out and purchasing – on my own dime – kazoos. In fact, I went all over Olympia looking for kazoos, because I wanted them to be able to have a kazoo band. So that was one of the fun things we did in the mansion ballroom. We were a happy group and had a lot of fun there. That’s why I say the Spellman family really enjoyed their days.

We had a little bit of a challenge when it came to mansion security, because I was so independent. I didn’t like to have somebody with me all the time. In fact, I did our own grocery shopping on our own dime. That was our family budget from John’s salary. The cadets were like my children. They were so young. And they had the best looking shoes. I would look at them and I would think, John, you’ve got to polish your shoes! The cadets look better than you do. I could hear them at night, clicking through the hallways and the grandfather clock sounding the chimes. I knew all was well when those cadets went through the mansion halls. We have a grandfather's clock in our house now, and I listen to it when I’m awake at night.

I recall John and I attended a Chinese New Year’s banquet one time and they gave us a live chicken which we had to take home. Well, thank God the State Patrol was driving. This chicken was in a cage. They told us it was for our dinner, our Happy New Year dinner. Katherine would never tolerate that. She begged for a formal pardon on behalf of the chicken from her father. The cadets were chasing this rooster around in front of the mansion. Somebody from the Governor’s office whose father had a farm asked if they could take the chicken to its proper habitat. The chicken received its pardon.

Governor Rosellini and John ran against each other for County Executive in Seattle. And fortunately, or unfortunately, John won. But we were friends. We were all friends. The Rosellini’s lived in our Seattle neighborhood. So, Al mentioned that he had a garden on the mansion grounds. Well, John, Mr. Green Thumb, not really, (but he always thinks he is) decided he was going to plant a garden. This was right to the rear of the formal dining room. John was delighted when foreign visitors would come to town. He would immediately take them out to the garden to show them the corn. The corn was taller than the fence! The growing season in Olympia is much longer than in Seattle. We’re lucky if we get a few tomatoes that are raised in a pot. That was so much fun. It was wonderful.

Our wonderful chef, Kyle, had an herb garden, and she used the fresh herbs. Oh, Kyle! I can’t say enough. We had a committee and I had some of my gourmet friends on this committee to select a chef. I believe we had three trial chefs before we finally hired Kyle. And she was a joy to work with. Just a wonderful young woman.

I also interviewed and hired Hai and Michi, who I understand are still there. Hai used to share Vietnamese recipes with us and she and Michi would try to show us how to do things. Oh, dear! You know, I’m sure that in Vietnam Hai was an opera star. She has a beautiful, beautiful operatic voice. And I would listen to her singing when I was working and it just brought joy to my heart. She had probably as many children as I had, and was trying to balance that.

There was a woman named Martha that we had hired. And actually, she had worked there previously. She was wonderful, and she knew so much about the mansion. And about three or four months after we got all the new hires on the state payroll, with the rights and health care insurance, she was permanently disabled in a motorcycle accident. And I read about her. I’m a mother to almost everyone, even my girlfriends, I think. Martha's husband used to pick her up after work, on this motorcycle. And I would look out there and I would think oh my gosh, Martha! Do you know what you’re doing? Well Martha, poor thing, never walked again. But they did bring her by in her wheelchair to say hello one day. I feel health-care insurance is so important. I cannot tell you.

We had several distinguished visitors at the mansion and the first one arrived in January. It was the premiere of British Columbia, William Richards Bennett. He had met with my husband prior to John's being sworn in as Washington's governor. When they met in Victoria, he told John that he would love to come down to Olympia and become our first visitor when John became governor. And he and his wife visited us. It was so delightful. I was fortunate as a child; my parents lived about four blocks from Lord Beaverbrook. So I was always very aware of the importance of these lords and prime ministers.

The French ambassador visited us because he had heard of our Washington State wines. At that time our wines came, primarily, from the Yakima area. Now, of course, the Walla Walla region has become very important, as well.

We held an open house at the mansion, and we invited members of the legislature and winery owners that we had met from all through the State of Washington. The wineries were asked to share their wines with the members of the legislatures. I would say the greatest percentage had never had a glass of Washington wine before. For John and me, it was just wonderful. It was the explosion, the baptism of the wineries in the State of Washington. We also started to invite the consuls who were based in the State and in Seattle to the mansion for an open house.

And may I say, as a woman, I never really wanted to be an astronaut, but I know some of our daughters did. We had Bonnie Dunbar in, who was the first woman astronaut. We had her parents in, and I believe they were from the Yakima area. I saw Bonnie's picture in the paper recently; she’s director of the flight museum here in Seattle, and still contributing so much.

Well of course I should remark that we had some important sports figures visit us. For instance, since John was a graduate of Georgetown as was our son David, the final four champions from Georgetown University came to the mansion.

Jim Zorn called me and asked if he could bring his little daughter to the mansion to see the stairs. And she made her first climb up the stairs of the mansion.

While we were in the mansion, we invited blind children from the area to visit the mansion for an Easter egg hunt. Through the Telephone Pioneers, what a wonderful group they were, we were able to get eggs with beepers placed inside so the children could locate them.

We were organizing a statewide volunteer recognition and also getting volunteers to help with the food banks. I was reminiscing, not too long ago, about the people that came to the food bank when I said there’s such a shortage of food in the state because of the dire economic times. John was governor through the worst economic depression since the 1930s. There were people hurting all over. And we had people in from the Restaurant Association, Kentucky Fried Chicken, and Safeway. I was like Mrs. Goose. We had about seventy or eighty people there who wanted to work on this. I think getting to come to the mansion had a lot to do with it.

I was involved with volunteer groups. I want to thank all the volunteers who continue the docent work at the mansion and take care of that beautiful place in so many ways. Because without volunteers, where would we be? And I think it’s one of the most important things we can do as individuals, sharing our skills and our talents, and most especially our time with others.

End Narration.